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		<title>By: Noor</title>
		<link>http://www.desertofmydreams.com/2007/08/new-level-of-frustration/#comment-31012</link>
		<dc:creator>Noor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tips.  I actually did most of what you were doing but no luck.  I decided after this weekend to give it up and move to a cheaper place in Mountain View.
 
Thanks again for the tips.  I&#039;ve passed them along to a couple of my friends who just started their apartment hunting in SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tips.  I actually did most of what you were doing but no luck.  I decided after this weekend to give it up and move to a cheaper place in Mountain View.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the tips.  I&#8217;ve passed them along to a couple of my friends who just started their apartment hunting in SF.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
		<link>http://www.desertofmydreams.com/2007/08/new-level-of-frustration/#comment-31011</link>
		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know you but I saw this comment when surfing the Net seeing who else was in San Francisco apartment hunting misery. I just wanted to say, hang in there. I looked for 3+ months before I (1) found a place I liked and (2) simultaneously found a landlord who liked me best (in Cole Valley, my favorite SF neighborhood, at that, with rare studio/1 BR vacancies.) I&#039;ve been in the same boat as you till now - being one of sixteen people to apply for a place, seeing my dream apt pop up in Craigslist only to have it rent before I can make it up to the City to see it (I&#039;m moving from San Jose, and so can&#039;t leave my job in the middle of the day during the week to run to SF to see an apartment.)

Just offering some tips from my apartment search. I&#039;m sure you&#039;re experienced enough to have tried most of this stuff already, but just in case any of these are helpful:

1. When you see an apartment on Craigslist you like, IMMEDIATELY call the landlord. Don&#039;t email, unless they request email responses only. 
2. Once you&#039;ve reached the landlord, explain what a good fit the apartment seems to be and ask if s/he is willing to show the apartment to you in advance of the open house. Indicate that you&#039;re immediately ready to put down a deposit or draw a cashier&#039;s check if it&#039;s the right place. Also, be available to see the place the same night, at the very latest.
3. When you go to see an apartment, have copies of the following with you, preferably placed in a nice folde, with your business card if you have one: credit report, two most recent pay stubs, new job offer letter (if relevant), resume (no, really - it&#039;s a good way to provide &quot;background information&quot; to the landlord while tacitly selling him/her on why you are a good tenant), and if you want to go all out, a brief cover letter describing your background, reason for moving to SF, and interest in the apt/neighborhood/etc. I also found that it helps to state in writing, if true, that you do not smoke, throw loud parties, or have pets.
4. Particularly if there is an open house with lots of people, express to the landlord politely, but not over-effusively, how much you like the apartment and believe it to be a good fit. Authenticity is key - some people launch into an obviously over-done act which alienates landlords.

I SO sympathize with your frustration, because I&#039;d never had a comparable apartment hunting experience before. I&#039;m in San Jose right now, and here, you pick the complex that YOU want and move in within the week. I hated every minute of having to treat the SF apartment search like a job interview - trying to sell the landlord on why YOU are the best tenant. But that is the game, so we must play it, unfortunately. 

Good luck! I hope we&#039;ll be neighbors up in San Francisco soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know you but I saw this comment when surfing the Net seeing who else was in San Francisco apartment hunting misery. I just wanted to say, hang in there. I looked for 3+ months before I (1) found a place I liked and (2) simultaneously found a landlord who liked me best (in Cole Valley, my favorite SF neighborhood, at that, with rare studio/1 BR vacancies.) I&#8217;ve been in the same boat as you till now &#8211; being one of sixteen people to apply for a place, seeing my dream apt pop up in Craigslist only to have it rent before I can make it up to the City to see it (I&#8217;m moving from San Jose, and so can&#8217;t leave my job in the middle of the day during the week to run to SF to see an apartment.)</p>
<p>Just offering some tips from my apartment search. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re experienced enough to have tried most of this stuff already, but just in case any of these are helpful:</p>
<p>1. When you see an apartment on Craigslist you like, IMMEDIATELY call the landlord. Don&#8217;t email, unless they request email responses only.<br />
2. Once you&#8217;ve reached the landlord, explain what a good fit the apartment seems to be and ask if s/he is willing to show the apartment to you in advance of the open house. Indicate that you&#8217;re immediately ready to put down a deposit or draw a cashier&#8217;s check if it&#8217;s the right place. Also, be available to see the place the same night, at the very latest.<br />
3. When you go to see an apartment, have copies of the following with you, preferably placed in a nice folde, with your business card if you have one: credit report, two most recent pay stubs, new job offer letter (if relevant), resume (no, really &#8211; it&#8217;s a good way to provide &#8220;background information&#8221; to the landlord while tacitly selling him/her on why you are a good tenant), and if you want to go all out, a brief cover letter describing your background, reason for moving to SF, and interest in the apt/neighborhood/etc. I also found that it helps to state in writing, if true, that you do not smoke, throw loud parties, or have pets.<br />
4. Particularly if there is an open house with lots of people, express to the landlord politely, but not over-effusively, how much you like the apartment and believe it to be a good fit. Authenticity is key &#8211; some people launch into an obviously over-done act which alienates landlords.</p>
<p>I SO sympathize with your frustration, because I&#8217;d never had a comparable apartment hunting experience before. I&#8217;m in San Jose right now, and here, you pick the complex that YOU want and move in within the week. I hated every minute of having to treat the SF apartment search like a job interview &#8211; trying to sell the landlord on why YOU are the best tenant. But that is the game, so we must play it, unfortunately. </p>
<p>Good luck! I hope we&#8217;ll be neighbors up in San Francisco soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Noor</title>
		<link>http://www.desertofmydreams.com/2007/08/new-level-of-frustration/#comment-30832</link>
		<dc:creator>Noor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used Rent.com and Apartments.com for my apartments in Ann Arbor and Mountain View.  It works well for finding larger apartment complexes/communities.  Most of those kind of places that are in the city are either too expensive or too bland.

I&#039;m actually going to see an apartment in Mountain View tomorrow evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used Rent.com and Apartments.com for my apartments in Ann Arbor and Mountain View.  It works well for finding larger apartment complexes/communities.  Most of those kind of places that are in the city are either too expensive or too bland.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually going to see an apartment in Mountain View tomorrow evening.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried rent.com?

It worked really well for us when we were looking in the Baltimore area. And, they gave us a $100 visa card hen we picked a place found on their site. Bribery, it works every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried rent.com?</p>
<p>It worked really well for us when we were looking in the Baltimore area. And, they gave us a $100 visa card hen we picked a place found on their site. Bribery, it works every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Noor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will this deter the millions of people from coming to open houses? ;-)

My issue with the Craigslist UI is that I can&#039;t drill down - show me only non ground floor apartments with dishwashers, laundry facilities, parking, in xyz neighborhoods, and within x price range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will this deter the millions of people from coming to open houses? ;-)</p>
<p>My issue with the Craigslist UI is that I can&#8217;t drill down &#8211; show me only non ground floor apartments with dishwashers, laundry facilities, parking, in xyz neighborhoods, and within x price range.</p>
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		<title>By: O</title>
		<link>http://www.desertofmydreams.com/2007/08/new-level-of-frustration/#comment-30773</link>
		<dc:creator>O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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